especially hi to the most guruistic beard on earth!
(First wanted to write: most beautiful - but hey, there’s @Sean in LeMeow… )
The 14th of September is now in my calendar, as Jake’s first 7 day email. Guess what, Jake sent me a how’s-it-going-email – thank you, Jake!
So I found EM about a year ago – does anyone know how I can check when I first visited a website (in safari)? Because it took me some days until I found that “start here” button
I started with -5,25/-5,00 & -0,75 cyl both eyes (contact lenses). For my anniversary, I’ve finally checked some older prescriptions and even found higher astigmatism in contacts, as well as -5,5sph and -1,25cyl in glasses. Guess what, those prescriptions are changing, sometimes both eyes had the same prescription, then someone decided there’s no such thing as a dominant eye…
I’ve checked old photos as well: Wearing glasses since age 13! That’s…OMG, almost two thirds of my life….
I’ve made an appointment at my opto, it’s an anniversary after all (and my opto is cool!)
Been there in January, where they confirmed -4,25/-4,00 & -0,75 cyl both eyes. There’s a boy (the owner) and a girl (joined later, cause business went well and he couldn’t manage alone anymore) and I had my appointment with the girl. She was telling me it’s presbyopia kicking in, but checked my eyes thoroughly. At that time, I already knew that the boy knew more about reducing, so this time, I made my appointment with him.
That was yesterday, and I had an interesting chat!
Somehow, I feel like I didn’t really get an eye test, to be honest
He put +0,25 lenses in front of my eyes (while looking at Snellen – no dark rooms there, btw), then -0,25, then -1,00, which felt too strong (I’ve just reduced to -3,00 R/L normalized). That was it I asked about my astigmatism, so we did the autorefractor test, which said: -0,75 each eye. He said autorefractor would be the best way to check astigmatism – oooh, does anyone believe that? It’s for sure NOT the best way to check sph, but then, he didn’t claim that. He also put -0,75 astigmatism correction lenses in front of my eyes, but that felt very uncomfortable.
He said he’d probably correct me with -3,75 & -0,75 cyl to full correction – so I’m definitely down another -0,5 again! And did you notice, didn’t mention or question that I’m wearing the same R/L now! (Though my centimeter readings have a slight difference).
As that -0,75 cyl correction felt too strong, I actually think it’s closer to -0,5 cyl – maybe I’ll finally use Jake’s astigmatism measuring tool one day… (or I’ll leave something for next year’s anniversary :D) Interestingly, opto-boy said that he doesn’t worry about me dropping cyl correction “that would be the smallest problem”. At the same time, he was totally amazed that my cyl correction had reduced (prior to EM!!!, without me even noticing!) at all, because the form of the cornea “is a given, you’re basically born with it, it can’t change – so it’s amazing and great that it did!”. I was just thinking: “WTF!!!”, but decided not to quote Jake’s astigmatism-is-created-by- optometry-rant ;-), because we were having such a nice chat. And even though he’s nice and supportive, we had about 40 minutes, it’s a business, and the next client was already waiting.
I posted somewhere that my acuvue lenses, actually ALL acuvue lenses, as they advertise it, have UV protection. So I asked opto-boy, and he turned into what I imagine Jake to be like when he posts his rants (opto boy even has a beard now, since recently ).
So this is Opto-boy’s rant on Johnson & Johnson:
'Oh great, they advertise UV protection! Let me tell you a secret: MOST KIND of plastic blocks UV rays! You basically cannot wear any glasses or contacts that DO NOT provide UV protection! It’s like those guys advertising’ margarine is free of cholesterol’ - of course it is, ALL plant based fats are! I always tell my clients: If you pay 200 EUR for Ray Ban glasses, you are paying for that image, your feeling, only! And no Tii, I have no clue what those “EU-certified UV protection” labels are good for (except making money) which they put on sun glasses and claim to be so important, because yes, the cheapest piece of plastic does the same job! Look, I have a UV testing instrument here, let’s put those test lens kit lenses in and check if they let any UV light pass: See, zero! Sure, give me your plain- plastic-bicycle-insect-protection-glasses (that say: no UV protection) and let’s check them: See, zero UV passing!
Johnson&Johnson are so incredible! Not only do they advertise UV protection, they also sell/sold THE VERY SAME LENSES as daily lenses, 2-week or monthly lenses – depending on how much money they think people have in a given country… They have changed that, don’t sell the same lenses as daily or monthly anymore, but are still impossible! How do I know? Well, their very own sales people told me, I know them for long!’
Also, on myopia:
Sais they are into myopia prevention very much. Frank Schaeffel, he sais, is the leading German Prof on this, advertising a combination for atropine and plus lenses at kids – low atropine being more effective and less side effects (but still all going back to myopia when stopped – totally useless, I guess… - oh my, the internet sais, ladies in middle ages used to use atropin to be more attractive - as dark eyes were considere attractive…) Working together with “the only eye doctor in town” who actually minds, who is not as “horribly arrogant as those chief university doctors”, claims to be the only optometrist in town who’s into myopia prevention and doesn’t throw me out.
Knows about pseudomyopia and ciliary spasm. Sais cause for myopia is part genetic + close up.
On child myopia prevention: The rule is 3-7-12 – forgot what exactly, but basically it’s ZEREO close up till age 3, some books and stuff till age 12, and from then on, a little screentime only under supervision (his 8 year old is not allowed screens). Rant: Poor kids should do something useful after school and homework, but now they just stare at screens!
On reversing myopia and me:
He actually asked if I do anything other than reducing, assuming eye exercises, and what I do. Told him about mainly differentials for reading, and my (whups, very limited) efforts on screen brakes and active focus. He knows all those chicken (and ape and so on) studies, but didn’t agree on the focal plane behind-retina-stimulus-thing (maybe he misunderstood, not sure). Sais “it’s not that easy!”.
He kind of consoled me in advance, which was pretty weird: ’You know, don’t be sad if you only get to -2,5 or so in the end, what you’ve achieved already is incredibly amazing! I’m so happy for you!’
Told him that thanks, but I’ll get back to 20/20 all the way, so no thanks!
He admired my intrinsic motivation to get rid of myopia, and sighed: ‘What do you think people say when you suggest them to reduce their prescription so they don’t see perfectly anymore?’. I had just told him about endmyopia.org (because he asked for it! J ) and on Jake’s program for optometrists - so Jake, if Thorsten from simply should ever contact you, that’s my opto-boy! I warned him slightly about those little rants, and he went something like ‘I know, people without education (in optics) tend to not use scientific wording and usually have a, well, different, manner of expression’. I still laugh so hard on this! Aaah, hope he will just love Jake’s little rants and manner of expression! (I certainly do! )
Then I asked if he is wearing contacts – he is! Having a little PRESBYOPIA! (guess he’s around 40)
Told him about how the method is great for both. Reply: “But it’s a totally different animal! It’s hardening of the lens, eye exercise doesn’t help, neither eye supplements!”.
Asked him to let me know what he thinks about EM, I’m sooo curious if he will!
He also checked my eyes, if they look healthy, like enough oxygen supply, so I asked if there is any corneal abbreviation – I think he was a little shocked , stating 100% sure: ‘There is no way to get that from wearing soft contact lenses! Yes, maybe from hard contact lenses, if they do not fit at all!’
I’ve recently searched a little on the internets for myopia, causes and all. (I admit I’ve mostly been a blind trusting sheep until know! I did check some of the studies Jake quotes at the beginning, but mainly just trusted and decided to give it a shot – maybe because it went into the same direction like those 2 bateish books, but made much more sense. Maybe because the science seems to be right. Maybe because there is no other real option around and maybe I’m just a little crazy ).
It’s really incredible: Found a paper where they quote all those chicken and all studies. So THEY KNOW what those lenses do! Know about being outside, breaks, near work, that it’s not accommodation. It seems like they have ALL the available info, all the relevant pieces – but some major brain parts must be missing because they seem so unable to conclude the only one logical thing! Well I guess those brain parts exist but have been sacrificed to funding or something….
But I don’t get it, talking to opto-boy: He has the same info, he’s running his own business, he is into myopia prevention – but doesn’t see what’s right in front of his eyes! How is that even possible?!?! I don’t get it! Or maybe I’m just very spoiled because the first thing I found, when looking for myopia a year ago, was that blog by some ranting beardy eye guru sitting in the jungle/on mountain tops/hiding in the ocean/surely whispering from deep fountains, misty forests and other weird places as well, putting all the biology, studies and easiest way out of myopia right in front of me.
BTW, the findings didn’t come surprisingly: My best cm measurement was 40cm – but that’s me being able to read, with lots of blur, so of course I’m below that. I really don’t mind it being “just” 0,5 since January – even though I’ve reduced 3 times now, but last time was just two weeks ago – because that’s what Jake predicted: bigger drop in the beginning due to ciliary spasm, and then things slow down – but I’m happy to make progress!!
For all of you in Germany: If you’re unhappy with your opto and want one, you could try simply.de and see if there’s someone close by – service is cool, but not the cheapest ones. Now that I’m writing this: Maybe I should check how much I’d pay for just lenses and cleaning stuff…
Whups, this is quite long now, sorry!
Cheers to all,